Is there any point in the Royal Family?

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Wealthy without lifting a finger

We all basked in the accumulation of a few extra days off in June, thanks to Her Majesty’s determination to not budge from her throne – I bet every Brit and their dog were singing her praises back then.

That opening line alone makes my opinion on the matter seem somewhat anarchist, but that couldn’t be more further from the truth. One of the challenges with the Royal Family is that many of us might visualise their vast abundance of financial wealth and endless hectares of estate and assume that they’re fundamentally unnecessary and costly to the taxpayer.

It’d be a fairly naive assumption should this be your logic, because in all seriousness if you weigh up the pro’s and con’s, of one of the worlds most famous families, then you’d certainly gather a more accurate understanding. So here’s my question to you…

Does Britain still need the Royal Family?

All in favour – say aye

Let’s start with the simple numbers; the Royal wedding cost approximately £20m and it is calculated to have generated £1bn for the economy.  Now I’m no financial guru, but according to my calculations, that’s a hefty profit. God knows what the Jubilee did. OK, so we’ve established the wedding may have helped our struggling economy, but how else do we benefit from royalty?

Aside from the millions of pounds earned from tourists visiting their endless estates and fancy buildings, the Royal Family are highly respected worldwide, they continue to generate healthy relations which more importantly affects Britain. There aren’t many guests that arrive at the White House to which the President (at the time) is wearing a white-tie dinner suit – in fact the Queen’s the first for this. Pretty good PR for Team GB, don’t you think?

Then there’s all the charity work they’re involved in, and to be honest this is where they excel, take the example of the Prince’s Trust. Important not to under-estimate this ambassadorial role for stuff that matters.

No way

So I’ve painted a pretty picture of the Monarchy, now it’s time to flip the argument.

First of all there’s the cost, to fund their living this year it cost us £32.3m. That’s right, the tax payer pays for them to swan around in their oversize bulletproof Bentley’s, whilst onlookers eagerly await in the rain, for that limp wrist to twist around and address them. So there’s the cost and although the Queen may be a constitutional monarch, in which she’s the head of the state, her roles are mostly just symbolic, as she occasionally represents Britain in her state visits – so her holidays are covered as well?

The Royal family aren’t elected, which can be seen as undemocratic. They inherit their status and for this to apply to a nation that’s so heavy on encouraging democracy it may be seen as hypocritical, this isn’t an issue worth getting work up over, but it’s just another factor that makes royalty seem fairly pointless. All a bit dated really, and just because we’ve had a royal family for so may generations doesn’t mean it’s still relevant today, there was a time when things worked without royal families before, too. 

I’m not going to reveal my own opinion on the matter, that’s for you decide. But I will leave you with this; it’s estimated they cost the taxpayer approximately 52p each year, so would you rather have those pennies to indulge in an extra chocolate once a year, or does the prospect of a extra day off here and there favour you?

The anthem got me thinking…

I can’t turn away from the Olympics and after watching the footy the other day, it came to my attention the anthem used to represent all four nations is God Save The Queen.

Fair enough if this was a collective song for Britain, but it’s not. When the Welsh and English rugby lads meet, you don’t hear a joint rendition of the same song, do you? No, you hear two countries respectively blast out their own anthem – imagine the uproar if the Welsh GB players turned said “Why don’t we all sing the Welsh anthem at the start of this match?”

The English would go mad, so what’s the difference? There needs to be an anthem for all four nations, it’s all about equality and right now, the arrogance from the English is quite disturbing.

Another point worth mentioning…although it’s not often reached the fourth verse reads “rebellious Scot to crush” just thought that’s worth mentioning!

Do you think we should change the English national anthem? What would your British anthem be?

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OleloMai
OleloMai

The "royal" family doesn't need to exist for people to visit and patronize the royal buildings.  People will still want to see where the royalty used to live before people wised up and realized their blood was red like everyone else and little prince's and princesses come from the same actions and same place as the peon's kids.  Besides, you might make even more money if you rent out the palace and some of those other castles.

DianeLoveday
DianeLoveday

there should be NO royal family rent buck palace out & the rest of the mob that have their snout in the trouf to GET  JOB

bamoyit
bamoyit

The English would go mad, so what’s the difference? There needs to be an anthem for all four nations, it’s all about equality and right now

, the arrogance from the English is quite disturbing.


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Sleepycat
Sleepycat

When will this country waken up and rid ourselves of this parasitic family once and for all, worked in Russia. How are we meant to go forward with this anarchic family who are steeped in tradition, blessed with with vast riches, arrogant beyond description, wasteful, alive. I mean them no harm but i believe these people and their cohorts have been bleeding this country dry for centuries.

When the queen shuffles off we need to break up the royal family, snap their hold over us, WE don't need them in any way shape or form.

I want a theme park opened in Buck palace to show how we once were ruled by this vaginal leader delivery system that goes against all that is decent about the human spirit. 

We can imagine a country where the ordinary man and woman in the street is in charge, we select from the best people we see fit to run our affairs for us while we earn and contribute to this countries well being and future prosperity.

My dream is in stark contrast to the royal families ideas of secret meetings and their privy councils where power is passed around like a joint at a vagrants party in a bus shelter, trust me when i say that power is hidden and guarded so it is never seen by the public, it hides behind bullet proof glass and twelve feet iron railing guarded by the gestapo's who are the only people allowed the guns.


Wyrdtimes
Wyrdtimes

It's the intergenerational institutionalised privilege for no good reason I can't stand.

You are mistaken about the anthem situation though.


GStQ is the "UK" anthem. It's England that doesn't have one. Bit like national democracy - England the only nation without. "the arrogance from the English is quite disturbing". The UK national anthem being played at England matches & UK events is UKer arrogance not English arrogance. 

A site dedicated to getting an Anthem for England http://anthem4england.co.uk/


In summary the Scots, Welsh,& Irish have their anthems as does the UK (GStQ). Only England lacks. Similar for national democracy.

DerekShimizu
DerekShimizu

@KevinHall2 Do you think Brexit will attract new pirates to the UK? Sounds like it might be the EU itself.

KevinHall2
KevinHall2

@DerekShimizu @KevinHall2   


Hi Derek, 


The establishment would be happier with our Euro exit. 


Thinking the future may be bleak the referendum may have been orchestrated as a finesse to shut the peasants up who voted for it,


The Royal assets are huge and up till now relied totally on their minders not to let anything happen to them. However ethical culture has changed and there's always a chance nowadays of a mutiny akin to Mirror newspaper pension fund getting stolen and Baring Brothers frenzied futures gamble. 


It is possible that a few worldly/insider pirates with an impressive pedigree may have their eyes on some of the Royal or other supposedly "safe" assets. 60 years ago nobody would think anyone would rip off a pension fund or bet futures so wildly as we had strict controls in place........ If I was a Royal staffer I would be very vigilant at monitoring levels of control and integrity.


Regarding your thought about EU you may be right as time will tell. Might need Lord Palmerston to make a comeback. Although deals won't affect the Royals their presence will help to stimie a total take over and it is probable that UK will prosper eventually if Sir Humphrey traits can be eradicated and the govt are transparent about their controls re corporate tax cheating and funding of truly needed community resources and services. 


Maybe the Queen could put some impetus into p[olitics by getting personally involved and cast what influence she has upon Westminster....no we dont want some snotty nosed representative reading their lines... a real interaction between monarch and peasants. That in itself would change the Brit culture and add much needed collective synergy aspiring for common aims.




daver01
daver01

I believe that the UK does need its monarchy if only to prevent some over egotistical megalomaniac from gaining total power.

DarrenMacKay
DarrenMacKay

"... Political Correctness remains just what it was intended to be: a sophisticated and dangerous form of censorship and oppression, imposed upon the citizenry with the ultimate goal of manipulating, brainwashing and destroying our society." -- NewsMax.com
 

http://www.rense.com/general88/dnts.htm

http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/politics/difference-between-dictatorship-and-monarchy/

"Queen Elizabeth II, head of state of the United Kingdom and of 31 other states and territories, is the legal owner of about 6,600 million acres of land, one sixth of the earth’s non ocean surface.

She is the only person on earth who owns whole countries, and who owns countries that are not her own domestic territory. This land ownership is separate from her role as head of state and is different from other monarchies where no such claim is made – Norway, Belgium, Denmark etc.

The value of her land holding. £17,600,000,000,000 (approx).

This makes her the richest individual on earth. "

http://www.whoownstheworld.com/about-the-book/largest-landowner/

http://www.sxolsout.org.uk/zcase.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-tried-to-use-state-poverty-fund-to-heat-buckingham-palace-2088179.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm6P5sDXs3k


parinder
parinder

AFTER QUEEN ELIZEBETH II THE MEDIA DOESNT NEED ANY 

KING OR QUEEN FOR ENGLAND. THAT MEANS LESS TAX CAN BE DEDUCTED FROM THE POOR TAX PAYER.

PEOPLE LIKE MIDDLETONS THEY THINK IF THEIR DAUGHTER

IS MARRIED TO WILLIAM. PIPPA, CAROL, MICHELE AND JAMES

THINK THEY ARE ROYALS, CAROL JAMES MICHELLA AND

PIPPA ARE MAKING THEIR WAY TO BUCKHIMHAM PLACES

TRYING VERY HARD TO SHOW OFF THE PUBLIC ON THE BACLONY AS ROYALS. KATE IS SUPPORT VERY TO CAROL TO BE

ROYAL WRAPPED WILLIAM KATE ON HER LITTLE FINGER

MIDDLETONS KNOWS KATE IS BOUND TO MIDDLETONS AS

ROYALS ONE DATE.

KATE SAYS YORK GIRLS WILL BE LESS ROYALS WHEN QUEEN DIES. KATE WILL MAKE YORKS GIRLS LESS ROYALS WRAPPED

WILLIAM ON HER LITTLE FINGER AND CAROL WRAPPED ON

HER LITTLE FINGER KATE AND WILLIAM BECAUSE KATE

WANTS MIDDLETONS TO FIT THEM IN YORKS GIRLS PLACE

YORK GIRLS ARE FULL ROYALS WITH ROYAL BLOOD WHAT

THE QUEEN SAID IN HER SPEECH.

PLEASE STRIP OFF ROYAL TITLES PRINCESS ANNE PRINCE

EDWARD CHILDREN DOESNT HAVE ANY TITLIES SO PLEASE

STRIP STRIP OFF THE TITLIES.

MIDDLETONS WE HAVE PLENTY OFF ROYALS

I HATE MIDDLETONS FAMILIES AND KATE CHEEKY AND VERY CRAFTY. MIDDLETONS HAVE SPOILED THE ROYALITY IN

ENGLAND

I HATE MIDDLETONS AND KATE SO MANY PEOPLE.

WILLIAM HAS GOT A WRONG WOMAN IN HIS LIFE CAROL

WANT TO BE WILLIAMS WIFE ACAROL WANTS TO BE

CHARLES WIFE TO CAROL QUEEN.

IF PRINCESS DIANA WOULD BE ALIVE WILLIAM WOULDNT

HAVE BEEN WRAPPED ON KATE AND CAROL LITTLE

FINGER.

SusanCawley
SusanCawley

That was at the time of the Jacobite insurgence into England. It was 'unofficial' - the way we change lyrics to Beatles tune - and never formed part of the 'official' anthem!

uziboy
uziboy

Hypothetical example Your father owns a farm in a land that is sparely inhabited and there is no government and the land is not the claim of any nation (no such place exists except tiny Islands no one cares about). (some are as big as the whole south east of England) And lots of people, say gypsies, move onto or wish to move onto the land. Dad says fine but obey the laws- no drinking or smoking and you don't pay rent but you pay tax. I don't want to worry about that I will give or sell land to the noble among you and you buy or rent land from them. the country is recognized as a monarchy. But later the people become worried and decide to convince your dad that laws regarding the people should be made by the people.  dad says okay but I still get tax and the army is still mine.

NOW DO YOU SEE WHY IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A MONARCH? IT IS LIKE PRIVATE ISLAND SOLD OUT TO INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE AS LONG AS RULES ARE OBEYED AND TAX IS PAID. HOW CAN YOU GET RID OF THEM.

Touchoftruth
Touchoftruth

@uziboy That makes no sense at all. The people were here long before the sociopathic royals drummed up support and rode roughshod over them, stealing their lands and farms and forcing them to pay taxes under threat of violence and death. 

uziboy
uziboy

THE ROYAL FAMILY RIGHTFULLY OWNS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. IT IS THEIR PROPERTY. BRITS ARE SUBJECTS OF THE MONARCH. They have right to the land and the right to tax us. But in order to ensure that the monarch don't abuse power the people and the monarchy struck a deal which allowed a bunch of lords and commoners to sit in a beautiful building do all the head scratching and law making that makes no difference to the crown such as whether or not the subjects must submit a request to put up a fence in front of their outer London homes or whether or not he poor should be exempt from certain responsibilities.  But ultimately the Parliament and the army are under control of  her highness.

bobwiggin
bobwiggin

@uziboy The royal family do not "rightfully" own the entire country and it is not their property. The Armed Forces take their orders from Government and not the Monarch.

Emmadebating
Emmadebating

English citizens were here before the Royal family was a thing.therefore them ugly old farts do not own us or England

I know this , and Im 13 please get your facts straight

DarrenMacKay
DarrenMacKay

@bobwiggin @uziboy 

Check out my posts above - I would dispute your Very Weak Argument...

do you know the Queen is "Briefed" on Everything Parliament does?
Do you know what she Own, and Whom She Controls... Or just think you do?

Plenty of links in my comments above ^^^

newteh
newteh

@uziboy This was the same in France, until the people realised they had the power to change things, and then old King Louis XVI saw the chop. The Royal family should have no special treatment, the best thing for them would be to strip them of all title and power and give them a job at Tesco.

TroyTucker
TroyTucker

How dare you. The royal family have no rights greater than you or I, they can just exercise their rights more.

Who elected the royal family, they are self made, what makes them royal? They are kept alive by the subservient tax payers, the education system and. The hidden curriculum are socialising people the wrong way. The royal family will be abolished soon enough.

supermindboy
supermindboy

they responsible for many many murders so dont feel bad about wanting them dead

Ceredigion
Ceredigion

God save The Queen !

Although I don't think she has much to fear from you miserable, unpatriotic , Republican Killjoys who remain firmly in the minority in any opinion polls.


The Royal family is secure for probably at least another 2 or even 3 generations now we have Wills and Kate and the adorable Prince George of Cambridge.

Deal with it and rejoice !


God bless your royal Majesty and long may you and your successors reign over your loyal subjects..

 

 

Ceredigion
Ceredigion

@bobwiggin 

Ha Ha Ha !-- Just what I expected miserable humourless Republicans

Yes unfortunately you aren't going away but you're an inconsequential Minority and you know it.

Take a chill pill  and stop taking yourself so seriously nobody else does !

Andrew Windsor

DarrenMacKay
DarrenMacKay

@Ceredigion  Absolutely Sickens me how Unknowlegable People are:

I have made some comments with links above- I hope it will educate those that have a Blind Eye!!!


bobwiggin
bobwiggin

It's you who are fearful. Deal with that and live with that you miserable anti democratic Windsor-worshipper. Republicans are here, and we're not going away, much as you wish it.

GSTQ - the meaningless monarchy sycophants' mantra. Says nothing, just like you. You can't even use your own name.

Emmadebating
Emmadebating

Well I can tell you've just joined jehovas witness

You sound like your part of a cult

A social inequality optimist

Don't your realise the Royal family is spinning continuous webs of lies for money and fame

We need government more than the Royal family

Sorry queen but your times nearly up and with more and more people debating the Royal family I'm sure there will be a social outcry !

DOWN WITH THE ROYAL FAMILY

( written by Emma age 13 )

bobwiggin
bobwiggin

Andrew Windsor - You're about as humourous as the real Andrew Windsor.

bobwiggin
bobwiggin

You monarchy sycophants have cornered the market in misery with your spiteful comments about anyone who disagrees with you but particularly about republicans. That betrays the sycophants fearfulness, if you weren't fearful that time is on the republicans' side you wouldn't feel the need to spew your hateful bile. Keep it up though, it helps us rather than you.

TheCrusherOfDumbPeople
TheCrusherOfDumbPeople

@Emmadebating

So original. The song has no bearing on the current relations and occurrences. Maybe first go through puberty and education then come back to discuss topics you obviously have no knowledge in.


Emmadebating
Emmadebating

Btw

My chemical romance quote is coming now

The future is bullet proof

The aftermath is secondary

It's time to do it now and do it proud

Killjoys make some noise!

Shove that up your jehovas Royal cult ass bitches

retepremyar
retepremyar

The Royals represent and reiterate that the class system is still firmly in place in the UK. The tier of the classes, with the Royals sitting on top of the wedding cake. The palace brown nose Royalists continue to tell us that the cost of keeping the these free loaders is around £33 million per year - well many know it's probably 5 times that cost, but the palace refuse to be transparent about the cost of protection and security, something the Republican movement have asked for repeatedly. The Windsors as a collective ayrian brotherhood (Which is what they are) are reputedly worth in cash and assets around £8 billion! It's absolutely disgusting that they receive anything from the tax payer, no matter how much it is. But what hope do we have? We've got Old Etonians running everything,  from the government, to the city of London, the Church of England, the courts and justice systems, not to mention financial institutions - It's all about being the elite and the Royals are totally representative of that. I mean our next King (Not Charles) is - yes you guessed it, an Old Etonian! I'm sick of being looked at, as a worker Bee. Long live the revolution!


My choice for the national anthem would be - New Jerusalem.

DarrenMacKay
DarrenMacKay

@retepremyar  Just like a Bunch of Ants, We all Work for the Queen....
she repays us with War and Poverty.
There's some links above in my comments which you might find interesting.

kell07930
kell07930

I hate the royal family, they overspend, don't work and treat there slaves like rubbish and completely underpay them

kell07930
kell07930

hate the royal family, they spend and do not give a thought for anyone but themselves. they treat there slaves like rubbish and underpay them. 

Armigerous1
Armigerous1

Do they still have "anthem runners" at the end of the movie in UK cinemas?

webleydevelopment
webleydevelopment

What a good article.  Joey you have surprised me.. I just did a google search for "What is the point in the royal family" and this popped up.

My opinion is - they are outdated and not needed.  I would love to see the Queen working in Greggs, with her hair net on.


Over privileged, over paid, under worked and probably inbred.. Thats my opinion.  Id like to have them all shot.

DarrenMacKay
DarrenMacKay

@webleydevelopment 

I'm sure there's a lot of People that would Share Your point of View...

There's some links in my comments above^^^

bobwiggin
bobwiggin

The world's full of people telling others to "live with it", it's short for "think like I do" and usually used by those who can't bear someone else holding an opposing view. There are some people who are able to conceive of a Britain without its monarchy and thank God for that.

EmilyWindsorCragg
EmilyWindsorCragg

The reality is, the United KINGDOM CORPORATION is just that, a corporation; and it must have a head, a leader, a CEO, to set policy, goals and direction.  The fact this role-function gets handed down, generation-by-generation is no more noteworthy than the fact bank presidencies get handed down generation-by-generation. The Monarchy is sometimes called, "Disneyland East" for the reason that its job is to externalize and practice the sovereignty of its peoples.  And if Globalists don't like that, well, too bad.

bobwiggin
bobwiggin

Anyone opposed to the Monarchy can join the campaign to end it at www.republic.org.uk

kell07930
kell07930

hate them they treat there staff like rubbish and completely underpay them. they are no better than me or you

MichaelMackinnon
MichaelMackinnon

i really dont get the point of this post, started by a man who basically chases a ball around a field for ridiculous amounts of money who is now showing some kind of social conscience, i think a more fitting question you should ask mr barton is are foorballers worth the money they are paid, before you start showing some PR driven excersise in financial finger pointing.

adelelsteele
adelelsteele

No, but that was not the point of this particular blog, in any case as we are all suppose to be related no matter how minutely to the royal family then I suppose in a Darwinian kind of way then yes 'her maj' did help him become a 'greasy footballer', my point was that I personally feel that the royal family is outdated as is the national anthem which is closely linked with the royal family that it does not really make me feel part of this 'great' country of ours!

ToddJenkins
ToddJenkins

@MichaelMackinnon No really there is no one special "bloodline" or any reason for someone to THINK they are special and deserve to be treated like it. Royalty what is that? All that says is your family was the most ruthless biggest crooks at some point. JUST LIKE the banking system, no family is special and no families have the right to bank the world :)

MegLeeChin
MegLeeChin

@MichaelMackinnon Hmmmm....To be fair I don't really get the point of your post either. Are you saying that  people who are successful based on talent and  hard work have no right to complain about the royal family who unlike Barton are only respected for their DNA? Why? Did the royal family help him to be a great footballer?