Draconian libel reform

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It’s good to talk

It’s pretty common knowledge I like to share my thoughts and encourage a bit of debate, so this subject really got my attention.

Have you noticed the trend in recent years where large corporations have taken advantage of a vigorous and quite severe libel law, in which they’ve sued, particularly media organisations, for criticising their company and supposedly damaging their reputation? Although it’d be extremely drastic to compare these petty and sometimes minor offences to the dictatorship in China, there’s some real similarities.

A government u-turn

The government are now looking to give us all some power back by enabling more freedom in what we can say and how people express their opinions, not only does this enable more debate, it hopefully removes costly and wasteful legal cases.

The point I’m trying to make is that our society suggests that a versatile form of debate and expression is good, yet libel massively hinders this, this reform expands democracy and I’m all for it. Obviously a line must be drawn as to what can be said, there must remain some form of ethical understanding – it’d be immoral to continually target a particular party.

A move to people power?I believe that we’re moving away from the media having the power to tell us what we think, too. With social media exploding over recent years (appreciating that I’ve only been tweeting since last year) I’ve realised it’s fundamental to how we communicate as individuals on a daily basis. Sit this in top of libel reform and it’s interesting stuff in how the public can “feed back”. Of course we need some degree of fair play since anyone can create an anonymous account and proceed to abuse and harass online, it’s the principle of it that excites me though.

Thankfully, it seems like the government have proposed a bill in which internet operators may have to disclose the information of troublesome individuals (trolls as they’re known) to police should things get out of hand, useful in a battle to fight these online trolls and more reflective of how it works in the real world.

Although I fear the end of anonymity on the one hand, and the positivity it can enable, it’s important that those few individuals sitting cowardly behind a screen sending slanderous, racist and sometimes threatening remarks should have to deal with the consequences of their actions. That’s the real world

 

 

 

 

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Dean1977
Dean1977

i don't think being rude should be made illegal, very disappointing to see police involvement with the tom daley thing, but a complaint was made by a member of the public so the police had to act.  Twitter is a broadcast platform and as such users  may be made to abide by similar rules to those imposed on the traditional tv channels or newspapers.   I think that would be bad news for all of us

MathisPaul
MathisPaul

@Joey7Barton looks like half baked idea

Gtarr
Gtarr

There has to be a distinction between harassment, threatening and or obscene and racist comments for which the law provides a remedy and comments that may be hurtful, crude and morally repulsive for which the law does not. Twitter provides insight into people's lives, thoughts, ideals and principles and helps to provide a forum for public debate on sometimes sensitive issues. It also, however, provides a public address for people who would prefer to remain private. For as long as their are ignorant idiots comments will be made that fall within both categories, the criminal and the crass. Unfortunately there will always be ignorant idiots who are not intellectually capable of expressing an opinion without resorting to personal attacks and insults be they criminal or not. As society however we must resist the urge to restrict or criminalise free speech and the ability for someone to express an unpopular opinion as long as it remains within the law no matter how repugnant it may be.

MathisPaul
MathisPaul

@Joey7Barton joey nice daring of half baked ideas !!

markthered7
markthered7

@Joey7Barton abusing people in a public arena but wanting to remain anonymous is cowardly - they should all be outed

darlolegend
darlolegend

@Joey7Barton most employers having polices where u disciplined over an opinion that offends can u offer an opinion without fear of reprisal

damo27
damo27

Just read your piece there joey quiet liked it .On the tom daley bit he should of just blocked the lad not retweeted him then reported it himself if he felt that the threats where for real so instead of talking about the olympics we end up talking about a 17 year old idiot ,hands up anybody who was not an idiot at 17 very few hands in the air i guess .Going to sound old here (39)but when i was 17 we gave abuse face to face which normally ended up in a slap or 2 but now you can safely sit in your bedroom and abuse who you want and when you want with no fear of a slap or 2 .But that riley fella was tame compared to what i have seen on twitter mainly directed at your good self and hand held up i threw in a smart remark or 2 myself but they were tame example fastest i seen you move was when mario went for ya .Then you have the media they dont investigate anymore they just turn on twitter example certain comedian made a comment about a swimmer and a dolphin following day front page on the daily mail people been killed in wars and thats there headline.Now back to my day if someone insulted you face to face in that split second or 2 you say something you would not normally say call it heat of the battle red mist falling but when it comes to twitter you think about what your doing before you tweet no pressure no red mist and no heat of the battle .Thats when it becomes vile so what do we do about it NOTHING by complaining about it it only promotes it if the individual involved feels the need to complain then so be it but we seem to have a whole twitter police force of buisy bodies reporting every one and in my view the only reason they do it is to promote themselves example one of the riley opponents was calling him vile and disgusting but when i read down through his time line and tweets it was littered with racist jokes and remarks so in my view he was worse .Swiss footballer could have gone on twitter and just said not happy with the opposition today but he chose his path he had the time to think that was vile ..Then you have certain celebs wont name them but some mock peoples religious beliefs i thought there was an incitement to hatred law where religion was a no go area is he been arrested and truly i hope not ..of course he is not 2 and a half million followers twitter would never close that account so if we slam a 17 year old idiot then slam every one.  good luck with the blog joey keep the head .

FreezingFresh
FreezingFresh

If you have talent and also a personality the likes of Joey Barton, you're always a target for people with miserable and shitty life's expressing their frustration on someone who has it all.

BroonoBrooks
BroonoBrooks

@Joey7Barton media shouldn't have the right to lie and ruin lives. Papers doing this should be shut down pronto #think about it

EdamW
EdamW

@Joey7Barton Riley69 is vile, but a dangerous precedent is set by arresting someone for tweeting what is subjectively deemed offensive.

EdamW
EdamW

@Joey7Barton was the threat to drown him legit? Probs not. Daley could have blocked him to avoid being harassed...

EdamW
EdamW

@Joey7Barton Nobody has the right to not be offended. They'v the right not to be harassed or threatened, it is debatable Daley faced either.

nahlabiko20
nahlabiko20

@joey7barton can i get a follow back mate?

graemeinlondon
graemeinlondon

@Joey7Barton the Daley guy threatened to drown him by the time it got to 23:00 & his acct closed. It was getting to perverse levels by then

TommyMArdle
TommyMArdle

@Joey7Barton interesting! Maybe the solution to these trolls is for certain people to be educated to use social media, some eejits out there

sukimfc
sukimfc

@Joey7Barton Opinions. 'They are like a***holes everybody has one!'

wittsy22
wittsy22

@Joey7Barton If courts were allowed to judge rather individual cases rather than rely on law of precedent no changes would be necessary

scotsnail
scotsnail

@Joey7Barton loved the article!!! Will have to check out more if u have them

LucyMason91
LucyMason91

@Joey7Barton subject of my dissertation :)

Krakhowse
Krakhowse

@Joey7Barton Off topic; see you turned out for Fleetwood. First time I've seen your name and 'friendly' in the same sentence.

spying_eyes
spying_eyes

@Joey7Barton stupid people should not be allowed to have freedom of speech

mickf65
mickf65

@Joey7Barton hope you took a kilmarnock strip home with you yesterday! #leaguecupwinners2012

derekray1
derekray1

@Joey7Barton they are better than them and to be honest you are as bad as some of these who say things by calling people names #itsajungle

derekray1
derekray1

@Joey7Barton a good read joey,but what you have to realise is some celebs don't bother to interact with other tweeters because they think

graemeinlondon
graemeinlondon

@Joey7Barton the guy that slagged off Tom Daley was ignored. He even apologised. But then began a escalation threatening physical violence

fad_gadget
fad_gadget

@Joey7Barton freedom of speech is only free when we like what is being said! When it offends it no longer becomes free! ie libel treason etc

HargreavesLee
HargreavesLee

@Joey7Barton ive had a read joey, youre right!these days you can say whatever you like!,,,as long as you dont upset anybody! #POINTLESSF.O.S

SofisticatedApe
SofisticatedApe

@Joey7Barton police shld be involved with trolls when it's menacing threats. Imagine same threats in streets! only diff is its via Internet

SofisticatedApe
SofisticatedApe

@Joey7Barton what do u think about the abuse/grief Suarez got after evra debacle, a lot o that crossed the line...

TrevorSTFC
TrevorSTFC

@Joey7Barton you must get a lot of time off at the mighty fleetwood town. #loser

gazcat23
gazcat23

@Joey7Barton can we have a retweet for the joining jack charity joey

ImpAlaska
ImpAlaska

@Joey7Barton Thanks 4 making me think about this. Agree with you Wish we didn't need a government solution. And plse stop bashing business.

partyharddegree
partyharddegree

@Joey7Barton reality is if u abused someone in reality u cud be arrested-be it technical assault or rascist abuse.media is just a new weapon

mikesmith1892
mikesmith1892

@Joey7Barton Anonymity is the key, if you won't say things openly, then don't say them at all

ashbairdos
ashbairdos

@Joey7Barton good piece Joey, pretty much bang on with what uve said

dylan085
dylan085

@Joey7Barton I think you're a massive gaylord.

DanKirk1
DanKirk1

@Joey7Barton shut up you peace

theboygilmartin
theboygilmartin

@Joey7Barton so your anti cyber bullying but pro violence? Confused.

Joey B
Joey B

 @damo27 thanks mate. Its does seem a tad hypocritical to me as well. Certain people depending on their profiles, get newspaper headlines whilst others get the coppers knocking on their door. Kids do dumb things and say things without thinking through the consequences. I still do at 29. To me the is a difference between saying and doing. Its all a bit black and white for me at the minute. Either, its acceptable or its not. The problem is the social media world is to reactionary to control(if it was controlled what would be the point of it, also?) We have to accept that certain people are going to use it for the wrong reasons, like most things in life. I know in my situation I can choose to block people and agree with you that if I seriously was in fear for my safety. I would of blocked said person and contacted the police. Not re-tweeted the buffoon. This is a new area we are opening up to(social media) their are lots of grey areas, I feel if we try to moderate it or somehow police it, it sets a dangerous precedent that they might not be a way back from. I am therefore, albeit it can be upsetting at times, in the corner of taking abuse from certain people and the 'freedom of speech' that comes along with it. As long as I've got a way to block/complain/report about certain people and their insults thats fine. I no way am I advocating 'cyber bullying' but if you have the option of a block, then you can just silence said person from your 'cyber life'. If thats crosses over to your 'real life' then the police should and I think rightly would step in.

Joey7Barton
Joey7Barton

@scotsnail thanks for the comments left on the article...

Cam_Hipkins
Cam_Hipkins

@mattyruse @Joey7Barton haha go on matty , joey barton is the worst

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